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Changing Our Mind, by David P Gushee

"Every generation has its hot-button issue," writes David P. Gushee, "For us, it's the LGBT issue." In Changing Our Mind, Gushee takes the reader along his personal and theological journey as he changes his mind about gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender inclusion in the Church. "For decades now, David Gushee has earned the reputation as America's leading evangelical ethicist. In this book, he admits that he has been wrong on the LGBT issue." writes Brian D. McLaren, author and theologian.

  • Sales Rank: #704214 in Books
  • Published on: 2014-10-17
  • Original language: English
  • Number of items: 1
  • Dimensions: 9.02" h x .37" w x 5.98" l, .53 pounds
  • Binding: Paperback
  • 158 pages

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23 of 31 people found the following review helpful.
A Holy Spirit Filled Scholar and Author gets it Right!
By David Clark
Finally, a scholarly approach to the LGBT issue that takes a high view of scripture and yet is not afraid to say we need to look at this issue again. This book is balanced with personal integrity, scriptural fidelity, ministerial humility and deep compassion. It takes a great scholar to produce the books that Gushee has written. It takes a humble man who is filled with God's Spirit to stand in the gap with the marginalized believers of this age like Gushee has and continues to do.
As an ordained Baptist minister, I am truly grateful for the clear and yet thorough work that has been given to us in 'Changing our Mind.' My prayer is that my traditionalist friends will lay aside their fears and pray before they read this challenging work. It is evident that God's Holy Spirit is doing something great through this book, Matthew Vines, David Gushee and others who are open to hear what the Holy Spirit is saying to the church.

46 of 67 people found the following review helpful.
Gushee Misses the Mark
By Art Hunt
David Gushee is a good man and a good scholar. As a pastor, I have read with great benefit his foundational book on biblical ethics. The tone of this book is certainly even-handed and respectful of all sides. But I say with great sadness that Gushee has fallen victim to the combined weight of his own compassion, the LGBT lobby, and his personal experiences. He says this is not true, and tries to take the scriptural high road, but it comes across simply as, "I see the plight of the LGBT community, and I want to do something about it." Because his own sister came out as a lesbian, this has added, I imagine, even greater impetus to his change of mind. I get it; all sincere Christians feel that compassion for people in such difficulty. But Gushee does not make a good case. He uses the "Gentile Analogy," which utilizes bad logic and is a real reach. He compares this to the slavery issue, which again is a very different case. Finally--and this is the toughest for me to read from a man I respect--he does what liberal commentators do: he simply deconstructs the Bible, says, "It doesn't really mean this." Those who read this book really need to see what world renowned NT scholar NT Wright says about the Greek words arsenokoitai and malokoi. There is, regardless of what Gushee says, no doubt about their meaning. "The terms Paul uses includes two words which have been much debated, but which, experts have now established, clearly refer to the practice of male homosexuality." NT Wright, Paul for Everyone. I give this book 2 stars instead of 1 because of the authors sincerity. He is obviously a compassionate Christian whose experiences are taking in a wrong direction. This book is useful because it helps us see the arguments used by those who feel the same way as Gushee. But please do not think this is similar to other issues of disagreement in the Christian world. Homosexuality is not and can never be, a matter of disagreement between believers, both of whom are within the circle of orthodoxy.

2 of 3 people found the following review helpful.
Review: David P. Gushee, Changing Our Mind
By Rowland Croucher
Throughout history the three major branches of the Christian Church - Eastern Orthodox, Roman Catholic, and Protestant - have disagreed on many things, but they have shared a rare point of unity in their antipathy towards the 'Christ-killing' Jews. For two millennia this anti-Judaism/anti-Semitism was fuelled mainly by three New Testament passages: Matthew 27:25 ('his blood be on us and on our children'), John 8:44 ('you are from your father, the devil'), and Acts 7 ('you stiff-necked people... you are forever opposing the Holy Spirit'). Even Martin Luther was not 'reformed' on this issue: he said the Jews’ synagogues should be burned down and even that 'we are at fault in not slaying them.'

But in the last half-century this has all changed; the whole Church has now repudiated this 'teaching of contempt'.

Dr. David Gushee, regarded by many as America's leading Evangelical ethicist, addressed this issue with 2000 words in his speech at the Reformation Project conference in November 2014. He then asserted: 'The Church has [also] inflicted... a "teaching of contempt" against sexual minorities - lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender persons... Grounded in a small number of biblical texts... knowledge sources at the very center of Christianity: scripture, tradition, and the leaders of the church, generation after generation [have also affirmed that these people] were worthy of the church's rejection and disdain.'

But now, especially in the last decade, the Western church worldwide (apart from its more conservative elements) is again changing its mind. In just 20 short chapters and 145 readable pages Gushee explores why. He confesses to being part of this 'paradigm shift', apologetically citing passages from his earlier writings where he was ‘misinformed’, and dedicating this book to ‘LGBT Christians who still love a church that has not loved them.’ These people, he writes, have been ‘shown the door; we watch as our pastors decline to open their hearts, privileging their careers and reputations over meaningful engagement with the tears and trials of many we love…’ ‘It says something really terrible when the least safe place to deal with sexual orientation and identity is the Christian family and church.’

Recent U.S. studies suggest LGBTs comprise 3.4 to 5 % of the population. Surveys tell us Millennials (31% of them) are leaving the Church over this issue. They are tired of hearing sermons about ‘the homosexual lifestyle’ and ‘the gay lobby’. (‘One wonders whether those preachers inveighing against gays and lesbians would do so if they constituted 40 percent of their congregations, as with divorce today’). ‘Say it with me: “There are millions of LGBT Christians”’ (an estimated five million in the US alone). ‘Odd, really – the big divisive issue in our messed up world is how perhaps one-twentieth of all people handle their sexuality. Remarkable. What does it say about our priorities that we will fight… over this issue rather than, say, clergy sex abuse or mass murder or caring for the poor?’ And did you know ‘there are parents who tell their gay kids they wish those kids had never been born?’

In a few important chapters ‘connecting the biblical dots’ Gushee eschews using unhelpful slogans like ‘clobber passages’ when referring to such Scriptures as Leviticus 18 and 20, Romans 1, and 1 Corinthians 6:9/1 Timothy 1:10. ‘Name-calling is not helpful, and most of the time it’s not fair.’ Summary: ‘Never once in intra-biblical references to Sodom is their evil described as same-sex interest or behavior’. ‘Never again outside of Leviticus are same-sex acts mentioned in OT law, leaving at least 111 of 117 uses of the term “abomination” to describe other issues.’ (‘Offences punishable by death in the OT include… cursing a parent, failure to restrain a violent animal, Sabbath-breaking…’). A telling question: ‘Do Christians quoting Leviticus 20:13 support the death penalty for those committing same-sex acts? If not why not?’ (As public theologian Martin Marty tellingly asked: ‘Was that part of the text not “inspired”?). ‘It is a fair summary to say that once Jesus comes along… [it has not] been as simple as just quoting a passage from Leviticus to settle a matter of Christian morality’.

1 Corinthians 6:9 and 1 Timothy 1:10 present other problems/issues. Scholarly discussions of the Greek words malakoi and arsenokoitai have generated a ‘vast, highly contested scholarly literature’. Questions abound, like ‘Did Paul make up the word malakoi?’ (There were other terms available to him if he wanted to describe male same-sex passive partners). Those who reckon 1 Corinthians 6:9 suggests ‘practising gays’ are going to hell will have to be consistent ‘and also say “practicing” greedy people or drunkards are going to hell’. How sad that preachers – and parents - have sometimes asserted on the basis of dubious word-meanings that homosexual persons are all condemned to eternal fire. No wonder the suicide statistics of LGBT young people are so awful.

Regarding Romans 1, Gushee wonders ‘whether what Paul is so harshly condemning has much if anything to do with that devout, loving lesbian couple who have been together 20 years and sit on the third row at church. Their lives do not at all look like the overall picture of depravity offered in Romans 1:18-32.’

I hope that’s enough to whet your appetite. Gushee also ably discusses the ‘celibacy option’, the meaning of marriage in Genesis 1-2 and Matthew 19, our selective indignation regarding LGBT vs divorce issues (‘few of the generation currently under the age of 35 will ever see a 50-year marriage again’), not to mention the rampant sexual adventures of heterosexual Christian young people and others before/ outside of marriage. (Surveys I’ve conducted in several pastors’ conferences suggest a figure of 70-95% of their Christian young people who come to them to be married are not virgins… Let those of us ‘without sin cast the first stone’… Gushee reminds us that ‘half the children in the US are conceived accidentally, and about 40% are born out of wedlock’).

Perhaps Gushee’s most powerful pages deal with ‘transformative encounters’. Many (most? all?) of the Christian leaders around the world changing their minds on this broad issue have moved from old traditionalist paradigms for the same reasons the early Christians did during the debates about accepting Gentiles. His equation: ‘Old paradigm + transformative encounter = paradigm leap to a new reading of Scripture’.

I have only one small suggestion: Gushee could have added a chapter expanding his brief summary on pages 26-27, telling us why ‘reparative therapy’ doesn’t work, and citing the scientific evidence for the aetiology of LGBT’s sexual orientation.

That said, his approach is irenic and very well-researched; the footnotes/relevant URL’s are embedded in the text rather than at the back of the book, and he’s writing both as a professor and a practising pastor who befriends LGBT people (and, indeed, has a ‘beloved sister’ who’s ‘come out’ as a lesbian).

If you’re prepared to read just one book on this important subject, here it is!

Rowland Croucher

September 2015

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